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What do women think of men in the golf course

By Katharine Dyson

Women represent one of the only golfers growth groups of golfers over the past years. With Annika Sorenstam and Michelle Wie (target = "_blank"> Is it a designer good golf fashion?) playing in men's PGA Tour event, and a new generation of sports cars, stylish, long bombardment woman to win on the LPGA Tour, the game has never been so influenced by the players. One would think that the courses would be grateful women players with open arms.

The fact is that often neither management nor of course the male golfers seem particularly excited to share the links with women. And to be honest, women are often not delighted to be paired with males.

In the first of two parts, one that she said / He Said series examining the men and women as co-exist - or not - in the links, a senior writer Rebecca Larsen seems to have discovered the chief complaint among women over men: machismo.

A couple of weeks, I had a conversation with two women on horseback between the ninth and tenth holes in one of the most expensive courses in Scottsdale. This is a course, the marketing director said, where 90 percent of the players are men, 10 percent are women.

I asked him what he thought of women about playing with men, hoping to get some answers that may help explain why golf seems to be a sport that attracts more men than women, and also why golf would be the most common cause for divorce After money problems and adultery.

None of the women wanted to be identified because the two of them work in the course. But most, about 40 years, said: "Whenever I have to play faster when I play with men. I have to run to keep pace of play because men are so slow."

His companion, a beverage cart girl 20-something, agreed: "You must remain totally silent while taking all the changes in practice and then have to go out and hunt all the lose balls. "

That's right boys. We know what you think of us. Do you think we can only Bloop balls out there about 100 meters and we are prepared to keep waiting to putt while we talk about our neighbors, our children and the color of our hair.

But when we talk about you behind your back, you laugh all the balls that the OB slice and hook. It might be a drive of 300 yards, but it is out there on the highway. And, frankly, I've never seen a woman take a cell phone call in the course, but men do it all the time.

Of the women I spoke to would go on the record of what was like playing with men, their hobbies usually around the fact that men often underestimate women's skills in the streets and overestimate their own.

"I think the problem for me is the kids who think they're better than them," said Elizabeth Phimister, 28, a resident of Woodland, California is a disadvantage of about 18 and can beat her husband, Andrew. "I'm not always better than they are, but sometimes I am, and I'm almost always as good."

Mary Long, 50, executive director of Women's Golf Association of Arizona and a 13 handicap, he enjoys playing with men. "I can play better golf when I play with men, "he said." I'm very competitive and I like to show men. I am inspired by men instead of women. "But she notes that" a lot Men make the assumption that women can not play golf, and that's annoying. "

Also irritating to her, she says, is when a group of men a green wave of a group of four people behind them and then proceed to putt while the woman in the quartet is still hitting back.

Are these guys assuming that women can not reach the green?

Well, we will not be underestimated. And while Mary Long would not say, I will: We are delighted to hit if you keep getting in our path.

Talk about being underestimated, Debbie Waitkus, a Phoenix resident and owner of golf-event consulting firm for the Causes of course, tells the story of a charity event that recently took part in at Troon Golf and Country Club. At the last moment he was booked into a group of four people as the only woman. "You should have seen their faces," he said. "I know they were thinking, 'Oh my God, she'sgoing to be slow and drag us down." One of them even said to me, 'You can be a help to us in the par-3. "

Then Waitkus, a 11 handicap, hit his drive. "I would like to have seen his eyes then, "he said. "It's all about expectations. Women can participate, and is not slow."

It is basically the same, ditto, ditto Tiffany Nelson, 31, an executive at the Westin Kierland in Phoenix, who is also a co-host a Saturday morning golf-talk show in the Valley of the Sun His pet peeve, he said, "when a guy is on the course playing tips or even the blues, when everyone knows he should be playing from the whites. "

"The biggest difference between men and women are the games that women are aware of the pace of play and keep up with the front group, "she said." Men in contrast, never pay attention to that and think they have the course, so everyone should wait for them .

"What about men who make their tee shots, forget that women have to reach, too, and right driving the tees forward? "added Kenic Cori, a Scottsdale golf writer.

OK, so we could go on and on about what you do not like of what men do. So now you're wondering (if you're a man) by which to play golf in the first place. Actually, it's for the same reasons that you do.

"What I like about golf? You would be outdoors and outdoors," said Nelson. "Also a group of friends that have the same passion for the game like me. "

Kenic has "the sense of mastery when I hit a good shot, being outdoors in beautiful surroundings and camaraderie. "

Phimister said she likes "doing well and beating myself."

Not all women are playing for fresh air, however. In fact, Debbie Waitkus argued that many women have taken up golf as a way to be more competitive in business. A 2002 survey Starwood Hotels, for example, found that 63 percent of women said that golf executives that some of his biggest business deals of the sales took place in a field courses.

Not all women who had spoken with complaints about the giant guys. Kassul Pat, a retired Scottsdale, playing almost every week, often twice a week, said he never had any bad experiences of playing with men. "I know you never can hit the ball as far as they do, and are always very supportive. "

But he acknowledged, "The male guards always assume that women are holding things up, but many of the boys we are as a couple to hit the ball all over the place. "

So be careful, man. Next time, you get in the output table, limit to a mulligan, please.

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